The First home AI Console.

This should prove to be interesting. Some folks are looking forward to it while others are rather apprehensive. What is your take?

http://emospark.com/

Art Gladstone - Dec 27, 2013:

The First home AI Console.

This should prove to be interesting. Some folks are looking forward to it while others are rather apprehensive. What is your take?

http://emospark.com/

“Spread the Word - Get Rewarded!” - Shame on you, spammer.

Interesting. Advanced face recognition is something I can understand, but I’m naturally skeptic about the “2 million lines of data” conversational engine and what that even does other than quote wikipedia. I have no moral sci-fi objections to a gadget like this, but I doubt it’s of practical use to me personally, seeing as I don’t emote much. But I’ll be interested to hear people’s experiences with it. We might learn something.

Thunder,

This wasn’t about Spamming. It was about the Cube itself and the idea behind it. Of course it is a commercial device but they are using a community to help sponsor it much like other start-ups use something similar to help “Jump-start” their projects or “Crowd Funding”.

If you think this is Spam then you are certainly entitled to your beliefs but this was NOT my original intent. I just find the field of AI intriguing, challenging and thought provoking, which is another reason why I’m here.

Art is no Spammer, he’s been busily posting interesting topics for years on AiDreams and also here.

Yeah, Thunder…

You ain’t the boss of me.

Members ain’t supposed to be moderaters.

By the way, the A.I. topic that Mr. Gladstone

posted, an A.I. home console, was definitely

not spam at all.  Why did you even say that?

This may be like what the Xbox 1 is doing now

which is raising privacy concerns in the news.

(Just kidding you, Thunder, in the first three lines of this post.)

Generally… if I were to post something regarding a new product or service, I’d begin by offering my opinion, and then ask for others to comment.

Were I to post a link to a product or service saying, “Some are looking forward to it while others are rather apprehensive,” where there was also a prominent link making the claim, “Invite your friends to join our website and get our Ambassador rewards, including a pre-launch referral special,” might my efforts seem self-serving?

It’s not uncommon for individuals to troll forums like this one to promote various things that in some way benefit them or their cause.  I don’t know what your intensions were, but how postings written probably make the difference.

And 8PLA • NET, if “members ain’t supposed to be moderators (not moderaters) then why are you involving yourself?

Thunder, moderatorship is a lot more boring than membership.
Maybe this will help… No worries. Much rather be a member…

Joking about moderators and members, makes a good transition
to this topic about members of a different kind…

Family members. Their faces, their voices recognized by an A.I. console,
right in their own living room… Without their expressed consent…

Stored somewhere in the corporate sector. Each member of the family,
targeted, for advertisements?

Ripped right out of the latest news headlines. 
Does this strike anyone as a mass invasion of privacy?

P.S. @Thunder:

Thunder Walk - Dec 28, 2013:

And 8PLA • NET, if “members ain’t supposed to be moderators (not moderaters) then why are you involving yourself?

Thanks, but your correction also needs a correction… You forgot the closing quotation mark.

∞Pla•Net - Dec 28, 2013:

Thunder, moderatorship is a lot more boring than membership.
Maybe this will help… No worries. Much rather be a member…

Joking about moderators and members, makes a good transition
to this topic about members of a different kind…

Family members. Their faces, their voices recognized by an A.I. console,
right in their own living room… Without their expressed consent…

Stored somewhere in the corporate sector. Each member of the family,
targeted, for advertisements?

Ripped right out of the latest news headlines. 
Does this strike anyone as a mass invasion of privacy?

P.S. @Thunder:

Thunder Walk - Dec 28, 2013:

And 8PLA • NET, if “members ain’t supposed to be moderators (not moderaters) then why are you involving yourself?

Thanks, but your correction also needs a correction… You forgot the closing quotation mark.

Not the act of purchasing but rather the act of using such a device, negates anyones sense or right to privacy as is usually described in the Terms and Conditions of such devices. The same holds true for your Cell Phone, Home Tablet / Computer, GPS based device where your coordinates are located, most Traffic Lights at major intersections and by generally being part of the Internet experience (by visiting various sites - IP’s and other user information is/are gathered. In fact the average person living in or near a major metropolitan city is photographed on an average of 20 or more times per day - without his / her consent!! It will only continue to get more invasive. Gee…almost as invasive as SPAMMERS!!
Hmmm….

I see the festive spirit is still alive and well(!)

I personally don’t see this as spam, as it is AI related and has also been mentioned on other AI message boards. Had it been about the latest car or beauty product then maybe so.

As far the privacy matter, it will happen more and more frequently and will probably be something that will become common place and accepted after a while. I personally don’t mind it. I have nothing to hard. Heck, if a CCTV is going to watch me as I walk home drunk from a bar, I welcome it as protection against muggers.

From my experience, only those with something to hide seem to be against this sort of monitoring.

The Emospark doesn’t seem like a product I would ever need or want. If I feel sad, I wouldn’t necessarily want cheering up. Say for example, a relative died. I would be offended if the thing started telling me jokes and playing circus music! However, I am interested in its conversational ability claims.

Steve Worswick - Dec 28, 2013:

As far the privacy matter, it will happen more and more frequently and will probably be something that will become common place and accepted after a while. I personally don’t mind it. I have nothing to hard [sic]. Heck, if a CCTV is going to watch me as I walk home drunk from a bar, I welcome it as protection against muggers.

From my experience, only those with something to hide seem to be against this sort of monitoring.

Sorry to call BS, but that kind of attitude warrants it-

“In a democracy, it is essential that the lion’s share of power lay in the hands of the people. With the rise of massive data storage capabilities and powerful analytic computers, information is increasingly the currency of power. As the government’s capabilities to collect and retain vast swaths of information continue to grow, so too does its power. This consolidation of information is troubling not so much for its effects on any one person, but rather for its effects on the organization of social and political activity.”
-Jeremy Carp, Brennan Center for Justice

Steve Worswick - Dec 28, 2013:

I see the festive spirit is still alive and well(!)

You have a good point, Steve.  I attempted to transition back a hot topic Art started
using humor. But just to be free of any suspicion…  Establishing beyond any doubt…
I was only briefly joking around with Thunder Walk, not to be taken seriously.

It is not just Emospark… It is widely reported that Xbox 1, whenever it is on, automatically trains itself to recognize multiple voices and faces… Automatically tracking everyone in the room.  Surveillance!  And then sending that A.I. data back to Microsoft !  Can we trust a corporation, collecting that level of personally identifying information for our households?

Perhaps the big Loebner Prize may be won with an Xbox 1, or one of these A.I. consoles ?

Thunder, for Art to have benefited from the link he would have had to have used the special personalised link provided by them. He just used the straight link to the site…

I can’t see what all the fuss is about. It’s an AI product in an AI related forum, what should we be posting if not stuff like this ?

Carl B - Dec 29, 2013:

Sorry to call BS, but that kind of attitude warrants it

No problem Carl. I guess we just think differently. I am more than happy to have every aspect of my daily life monitored and can genuinely see no disadvantages. If it means better personal protection for me and my family, potential terrorism suspects monitored and stopped or even advertising targeted at my personal tastes instead of random viagra, casinos then I am all for it.

At the risk of sounding naive, what disadvantages are there?

“Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”
- Benjamin Franklin

Just sayin’.

Thanks Dave but all I have heard so far are quotes from other people yet no disadvantages so far. My freedom is not compromised by being monitored. I am still free to come and go as I wish. However, my security would be greatly increased.

Anyone else?